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Postby Shapley » Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:42 am

Could it be Three pieces: Meditation, Scherzo and Melody op. 42, for violin and piano
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Postby Catmando » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:36 am

Shapley wrote:Could it be Three pieces: Meditation, Scherzo and Melody op. 42, for violin and piano


It could have been, but it's not in this case. :)
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Postby Shapley » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:41 am

Thank goodness! I really haven't the time
to compose another 30Q in rhyme.
If, however, I had been successful in scoring,
to do one in prose would surely be boring.
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Postby navneeth » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:08 pm

Actually, Shap, it's for a solo instrument. If Cat wishes, you could change your guess. ;)
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Postby Shapley » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:17 pm

That the instrument is solo, I did overlook
'ere to guess at the answer I undertook.
E'en so, I'm willing to accept my mistake,
another guess at the answer I will not take.
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Postby Shapley » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:23 pm

Quite a number of pieces Tchaikovsky did compose.
Pieces for piano prominent among those.
I took aim at the target and missed,
if anyone is interested, here is a list:

Anastasie-Valse (1854)
By the River, By the Bridge (1862)
Allegro in F minor (1863/64)
Theme with Variations (1863/64)
Impromptu in E-flat minor, Op. 1, No. 2 (1863/64)
Piano Sonata in C-sharp minor, Op. 80 (1865)
Scherzo á la russe, Op. 1, No. 1 (1867)
Souvenir de Hapsal, Op. 2 (1867)
Valse-caprice, Op. 4 (1868)
Romance, Op. 5 (1868)
Potpourri on themes from The Voevoda (1867/68 )
Valse-scherzo, Op. 7 (1870)
Capriccio, Op. 8 (1870)
Three Pieces, Op. 9 (1870)
Two Pieces, Op. 10 (1871-72)
Six Pieces, Op. 19 (1873)
Six Pieces on a Single Theme, Op. 21 (1873)
The Seasons, Op. 37a (1875-76)
Waltz in F-sharp minor (1876)
Funeral March on themes from The Oprichnik (1877)
Twelve Pieces, Op. 40 (1878)
Grand Sonata in G major, Op. 37 (1878)
The Volunteer Fleet (1878)
Children's Album, Op. 39 (1878)
Nathalie-valse (1878)
Six Pieces, Op. 51 (1882)
Impromptu-caprice (1884)
Dumka, Op. 59 (1886)
Valse-scherzo (1889)
Impromptu in A-flat major (1889)
Aveu passionné (?1891)
Moment lyrique (1892)
Military March (1893)
Eighteen Pieces, Op. 72 (1893)
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Postby Catmando » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:42 pm

Shapley wrote:Quite a number of pieces Tchaikovsky did compose.
Pieces for piano prominent among those.
I took aim at the target and missed,
if anyone is interested, here is a list:

Anastasie-Valse (1854)
By the River, By the Bridge (1862)
Allegro in F minor (1863/64)
Theme with Variations (1863/64)
Impromptu in E-flat minor, Op. 1, No. 2 (1863/64)
Piano Sonata in C-sharp minor, Op. 80 (1865)
Scherzo á la russe, Op. 1, No. 1 (1867)
Souvenir de Hapsal, Op. 2 (1867)
Valse-caprice, Op. 4 (1868)
Romance, Op. 5 (1868)
Potpourri on themes from The Voevoda (1867/68)
Valse-scherzo, Op. 7 (1870)
Capriccio, Op. 8 (1870)
Three Pieces, Op. 9 (1870)
Two Pieces, Op. 10 (1871-72)
Six Pieces, Op. 19 (1873)
Six Pieces on a Single Theme, Op. 21 (1873)
The Seasons, Op. 37a (1875-76)
Waltz in F-sharp minor (1876)
Funeral March on themes from The Oprichnik (1877)
Twelve Pieces, Op. 40 (1878)
Grand Sonata in G major, Op. 37 (1878)
The Volunteer Fleet (1878)
Children's Album, Op. 39 (1878)
Nathalie-valse (1878)
Six Pieces, Op. 51 (1882)
Impromptu-caprice (1884)
Dumka, Op. 59 (1886)
Valse-scherzo (1889)
Impromptu in A-flat major (1889)
Aveu passionné (?1891)
Moment lyrique (1892)
Military March (1893)
Eighteen Pieces, Op. 72 (1893)


In regards to the above Liszt
Shap, you might have missed,
as the work I have in mind is not in this.

To give you a hint, the work in mind, it's year is not mentioned,
however it was before the year my beautiful province entered Confederation.
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Postby dai bread » Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:19 pm

Does the work have an odd-numbered opus number?
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Postby Catmando » Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:58 am

dai bread wrote:Does the work have an odd-numbered opus number?


No.
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Postby Shapley » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:52 pm

Does the work have an opus number?
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Postby dai bread » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:19 pm

If so, is it less than 40?
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Postby Catmando » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:35 pm

Shapley wrote:Does the work have an opus number?

Yes
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Postby Catmando » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:35 pm

dai bread wrote:If so, is it less than 40?

Yes
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Postby Shapley » Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:42 am

An even-numbered opus, less than forty, but not 2, 4, 8, or 10 (which appear on the list I posted). Time to go a Googlin'
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Postby Catmando » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:33 pm

Shapley wrote:An even-numbered opus, less than forty, but not 2, 4, 8, or 10 (which appear on the list I posted). Time to go a Googlin'


I'll add a hint. There is no choir in this work, which are vocal(s). :wink:
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Postby Shapley » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:06 pm

Here's the list I found for his opus numbers, but I can't find one to fit:

Opus 6, Six Romances is for high voice, medium voice, or low voice with piano accompaniment

Opus 12, The Snow Maiden, doesn't fit the bill

Opus 14, Valuka, the Smith, is an opera

Opus 16, Six Romances, were scored for voice and piano, (although three of them, Nos. 1, 4, & 5, were later scored for solo piano).

Opus 18, The Tempest, is a fantasia scored for piccolo, 2 flutes, 2 oboes, 2 clarinets (B-flat), 2 bassoons, 4 horns (F), 2 trumpets (F), 3 trombones, tuba, timpani, cymbals, bass drum, violins I, violins II, violas, cellos, double basses.

Opus 20 is the ballet Swan Lake

Opus 22 is a string Quartet, (No. 2)

Opus 24 is Evgenii Onegin

Opus 26, Sérénade mélancolique, is scored for violin solo + 2 flutes, 2 oboes, 2 clarinets (B-flat), 2 bassoons, 4 horns (F), violins I, violins II, violas, cellos, double basses, although is was also arranged for violin with piano later.

Opus 28, Six Romances is scored for high or medium voice with piano.

Opus 30 is a string quartet (No. 3)

Opus 32 is the fantasia Francesca da Rimini, scored for Piccolo, 3 flutes, 2 oboes, cor anglais, 2 clarinets (A), 2 bassoons, 4 horns (F), 2 cornets (A), 2 trumpets (E), 3 trombones, tuba, timpani, cymbals, bass drum, tam-tam, harp, violins I, violins II, violas, cellos, double basses.

Opus 34 is a Valse-scherzo scored for violin solo + 2 flutes, 2 oboes, 2 clarinets (B-flat), 2 bassoons, 2 horns (F), violins I, violins II, violas, cellos, double basses, which was also later arranged for violin with piano.

Opus 36 is the Fourth Symphony, in F minor,

Opus 38 is Six Romances for High voice, medium voice, or low voice with piano.

I don't see anything there that fits the bill, except possibly the three of six romances, opus 16, that were scored for solo piano.
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Postby navneeth » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:10 pm

Thanks for the link, Shap.
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Postby Catmando » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:47 pm

Remember: I said there was no choir, but that does not mutually exclude a vocal.

And although I said it is for a solo instrument, which it is, I also said that in this case, I did not count a vocal as an instrument.
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Postby Catmando » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:49 pm

Shapley wrote:Here's the list I found for his opus numbers, but I can't find one to fit:

Opus 6, Six Romances is for high voice, medium voice, or low voice with piano accompaniment

Opus 12, The Snow Maiden, doesn't fit the bill

Opus 14, Valuka, the Smith, is an opera

Opus 16, Six Romances, were scored for voice and piano, (although three of them, Nos. 1, 4, & 5, were later scored for solo piano).

Opus 18, The Tempest, is a fantasia scored for piccolo, 2 flutes, 2 oboes, 2 clarinets (B-flat), 2 bassoons, 4 horns (F), 2 trumpets (F), 3 trombones, tuba, timpani, cymbals, bass drum, violins I, violins II, violas, cellos, double basses.

Opus 20 is the ballet Swan Lake

Opus 22 is a string Quartet, (No. 2)

Opus 24 is Evgenii Onegin

Opus 26, Sérénade mélancolique, is scored for violin solo + 2 flutes, 2 oboes, 2 clarinets (B-flat), 2 bassoons, 4 horns (F), violins I, violins II, violas, cellos, double basses, although is was also arranged for violin with piano later.

Opus 28, Six Romances is scored for high or medium voice with piano.

Opus 30 is a string quartet (No. 3)

Opus 32 is the fantasia Francesca da Rimini, scored for Piccolo, 3 flutes, 2 oboes, cor anglais, 2 clarinets (A), 2 bassoons, 4 horns (F), 2 cornets (A), 2 trumpets (E), 3 trombones, tuba, timpani, cymbals, bass drum, tam-tam, harp, violins I, violins II, violas, cellos, double basses.

Opus 34 is a Valse-scherzo scored for violin solo + 2 flutes, 2 oboes, 2 clarinets (B-flat), 2 bassoons, 2 horns (F), violins I, violins II, violas, cellos, double basses, which was also later arranged for violin with piano.

Opus 36 is the Fourth Symphony, in F minor,

Opus 38 is Six Romances for High voice, medium voice, or low voice with piano.


Your list does include the work that you are looking for. :)
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Postby Shapley » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:49 pm

I see, so that narrows it down to either Opus 6, 16, 28, or 38, in which case the title is certain to be Six Romances.

Fortunately, I've decided not to take another guess. :D
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